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 Subject: RE: STRICTLY PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL?
 
Author: Cllr Laurence Mann
Date:   11/2/2001 8:46 pm WEDT
I think people should realise that things have changed quite a lot over the last 12 years. 12 years ago, it would have been the norm everywhere for planning matters to be discussed before decision, and even to have been voted on in a party political way. It still is the case in many places that this happens. The catalyst for change was the Nolan report.

I have seen these notes before, and I have no reason to doubt that they are authentic, but that does not mean that they are. It has always been the case that meetings between officers and members are held, which decide on strategies, which are only attended by members of the majority party.

I think that some of the councillors who looked at the question as to whether to pursue the appeal or a settlement did get involved in the planning decision, and nowadays that would not be possible, because apart from anything else, only cabinet members would have been involved in such a meeting.

Having said all of that, the decision made at this meeting appears to have been to seek a settlement. No commitment was made as to the level of that settlement. It was then for the planning process to adjudicate further.

It appears that a pretty good deal was struck after that meeting.

People looking back at this should try and put themselves in the seats of the councillors concerned. The ice rink had had it in any event. The application was going to appeal and planning advice was that it would probably succeed. if that happened the council might get very little or nothing out of it. The property bubble was in the process of bursting. How many of you would have gambled with £2.5 million of money which could be used to benefit the community, on the whim of a planning inspector, with the best possible result the status quo? That's the bottom line.

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